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Post by MichelleL Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:49 pm

The past two nights Brenden has been a bear at bedtime. Our bed time routine has not changed and until two days ago he was waking usually at 1am and 5am for feedings but going right back to bed. He was also going down at 8pm with no issues. I'm not sure what's up. He fights going to bed and then once he's there he is up every TWO hours! Sometimes he wants food other times he's just up. I'm about to go nutso! Anyone else going thru this? He isn't sleeping very long during the day either. At first I thought our vacation messed him up but we took his bed with us and kept his nightime routine as hard as it was sometimes. We are still struggling with a daytime routine but evenings have been down pat for quite some time.... HELP........
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Post by tweetie462 Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:05 pm

We just started Logan on a true bedtime routine last Thursday, and today he's blown it all to bits. Since Thursday, he was going upstairs to nurse and rock at 8:00/8:30 and was in his crib between 9 and 10 (depending on if i feel asleep with him and how long i was out). And he would then sleep until either 2 or 4am, he'd eat, we'd snooze together again, I'd put him back in and he'd up for the morning between 6am and 7am. Tonight, it's now's 10pm and he's been up and down since 8:30!!!! So I'm right there with you Michelle! I'm hoping it's just a fluke and that tomorrow night it will go back to what it was!! Good luck and here's hoping tonight is a better night for you!
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Post by PolloLoco75 Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:39 am

Nate's schedule has gotten all screwy as well. It started Christmas Eve when we were at my Mom's house until 1AM doing Christmas stuff. He was awake the whole time we were there and only fell asleep in the car on the way home. It has been 2 weeks and we are finally getting back on a schedule. Or trying to since I go back to work this week. He had either only been getting up once a night if at all. He was sleeping through most nights. Now he is up twice at least. Its driving DH and I a bit crazy. So we are getting strict on our bedtime routine and trying to keep him up later in the evenings so he will sleep longer. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Its 10:30 and he just went to bed so here is hoping he sleeps until 5 AM. He may only make it until 3 but we are going to try and keep him up more and more the next few days. Here is hoping it works.

I hope you ladies get your schedules straight and start getting more sleep!
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Post by MichelleL Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:07 am

It's 4:02am and the 5th time I've been up with Brenden tonight since DH put him down at 8pm. The longest stretch was between 10pm and 12:30am. He won't take his binky at all and he's had three 5oz bottles drinking all but 1oz in one of them. This is the THIRD night of this! I am so tired. DH wants me to take him to the pedi but I don't know what she could possibly do. He was in a fabulous mood yesterday and took his pre-vacation usual 4 naps....2 of which were actually in his bed and not the swing or bouncy!! I guess if he was fussy I would understand....I'm so confused.
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Post by Kim Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:13 am

I am so sorry for you guys with sleeping issues, I really wish there was a magic cure. I have some friends with LO's a little older than ours and they are still struggling with the same thing. I some how have gotten very lucky, Landree is an even better sleeper than McKenna, with McKenna we would still have to get up and go give her a binky...Landree doesn't care if she has one or not and sleeps from 9:00/9:30pm until 7am.
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Post by mythreesons Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:40 am

Kim-My middle ds was like that too.We'd put him down between 8-9pm and hed sleep until 7-8am next day.

Lucas takes usually 1 or two good naps for me.They usually last about 2 hours sometimes 3. But at night he sleeps with us still in his snuggle nest so he sleeps as long as i do....

Maybe babies are hitting growth spurts?Hope everyone has a better night tonight...HUGS!!!

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Post by rocknrollmommy616 Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:28 pm

Joey was like that for a little bit until recently. Sometimes he sleeps really good but sometimes not. We've sort of resigned ourselves to the fact that babies will be babies, sometimes you just don't know what to expect. I'm not trying to be mean, but we've had such problems with sleep that we're so used to it.

On the other hand, sometimes Joey will go to bed at midnight and sleep til 8:30 or 9. Then sometimes he wakes up around 6. I know Joey is a tad older(not too much older, a week or so at best), so maybe we've passed this stage. But I won't count on it. Babies are so unpredictable!

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Post by MichelleL Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:52 pm

I think I've figured out the culprit to our sleep issues! Atleast I hope I have. I think he's too heavy for the pak-n-play insert that makes it a bassinet and he's uncomfortable. I was looking at him in there today and he kind of "dips" in, if you know what I mean. I'm moving his bed down here tomorrow...I'm not ready to travel the stairs a zillion times a night so he's staying in our room until he's only up once or not at all. I can't have him waking Dawson anyway since he has to go to school in the mornings.

I've also been reading about over tired babies and what that does to them. Brenden fits all of the classic signs of being overly tired and not able to sleep soundly. It sounds like the more they sleep, the better they sleep, the sounder they sleep, and the more they sleep. Sounds strange but I think it's true. Dawson was always a good napper and bedtimer. He took two naps a day until he was 2! He slept all night from the beginning and we NEVER had sleep issues. It took me awhile to figure out I shouldn't be rocking him to sleep so when he was about 8 months old I started putting him in his bed at 10am and getting him out at 11:30. At 1:30 I would put him back in his bed and get him out at 4:00pm and then at bedtime I put him in there at 7:30pm and would get him out at 7:30am. After about a week (no longer) those were the times he would sleep. And after about a month he would drop....I mean drop no matter where we were at those times. It was the best thing I ever did for him and for myself. Brenden just seems too little to do this right now. However, today at 1pm I had enough and I did force him to go to sleep, he woke at 2pm but I made him go back down and when he woke at 3:30 he was the happiest little camper! :-)

Anyway, I know there is hope....I just wish it would get here faster...for all of us having issues! :-)
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:53 pm

Wow Kim you have an awesome sleeping schedule....lol Jeremiah occasionally goes a 5 hour stretch at night but not on consistent basis yet...


AFM(just realized the meaning of this today I though it was someones abbreviations of their name lol)-He is showing signs of being interested in when I am eating dinner though he watches me move the fork from plate-to mouth and back again....even tonight began whimpering while watching me so I tried thin cereal on the spoon and he didn't spit it out he moved it back towards back of his mouth but was upset I was not going at the speed of a bottle feeding.. so I just mixed it up with a bit more formula and water and a touch more of cereal and he ate 4 oz of it.....I am not thinking that solids are gonna take much longer with him

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Post by tweetie462 Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:25 am

Michelle - hopefully that will solve your sleep problems with Brenden.

Logan is doing pretty well at night. He's always wanted to get into his pjs when the other 2 do, and now he's ready for his last feeding and bed around the same time as the older 2 go up to brush teeth and go to bed. Last night, all 3 were in their rooms and asleep (or at least quiet) by 9:15!!! I was able to prep dinner for tonight!! I was so excited!!! But, then Logan was up at 3am to eat, I fell asleep with him until 5, put him back in and he was up again at 5:30 and never went back to sleep. DH gave him a bottle so I could get a little bit more sleep, but by 6am I was up nursing him again. Oh well! Hopefully this means he'll have good naps today!! Smile
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Post by MichelleL Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:19 am

Joy - it's funny how they watch you eat isn't it?? Brenden has been eating cereal since his 2month visit. He wasn't doing too well with a spoon but when I quit mixing the cereal with formula and started mixing it with water and just a little prune juice for flavor he can't get enough. We started him on green beans yesterday at dinner time and I thought he was going to come out of his bouncy he was so freakin' happy!! LOL We were going to start him at 4 months anyway and he's only 2 weeks shy of it so I figured why not? I think some of his issues are he's not getting enough substance. DH got on the scale yesterday by himself and then held the baby so it's not totally accurate but atleast with a pound or 2 and it said Brenden weighs 20lbs.

Elise - I love how the immulate the other kiddos! Funny how Logan wants to get ready for bed just like everyone else! LOL

Sleep last night started out pretty good. He went down at 7:30 but woke shortly after. DH rocked him for about 5 minutes and he went right back to bed. He woke at 1am and drank 5oz then again at 3 and drank 5oz and then again at 5 and drank 5oz and up for good at 6:45am. It's now 9:20 and he's been asleep since 8:30. He was up in a good mood but I could tell he was still tired. After I got Dawson off to school I gave him a bottle and out he went. So I put a bin full of Dawson's old clothes in the pak-n-play under the bassinet insert last night...seems like he slept a little better since he wasn't sinking but maybe this is a growth spurt?????
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Post by MichelleL Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:25 pm

Ok...so we went to the pedi today to see if she could find the no sleep culprit. Turns out he outgrew his Zantac dosage again...by quite a bit! Dude weighs 20.4lbs....yes 20.4lbs and his dosage was upp'ed from 1mil 3x's per day to 1.4mil 3x's per day!!! He's up now and I have to feed him but I'll be back later to tell the rest!
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Post by MichelleL Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:22 pm

I"m back! Okay....so pedi said continue with veggies because so much formula could be giving him a belly ache. So along with the larger zantac dosage, bin in the pak-n-play for support and veggies surely my little guy can get it together. Hopefully this was his 4month growth spurt because he is outgrowing everything! We went clothes shopping yesterday and I bought size 9months which seem to fit really well but I am worried about his swing, bouncy, johnny jump up, and the pak-n-play for much longer. I can't believe how big he is getting....and how fast it is happening. Last night was much better on the sleep end. He went down at 7:30 and didn't get up until 2:15 for a bottle and then again at 5 for a bottle. He only slept until 6:30 but holy cow do I feel like I had a good nights sleep! I even put make up on today!
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Post by mythreesons Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:05 pm

Wow Michelle!!What a big guy you have!It's crazy how fast they grow sometimes.Middle DS was like that but he stopped gaining weight around a year and grew in height...We're still in 3-6 clothes for Lucas and if they're new, they're still big.But if they're well worn he can fit up to 12 months.LOL...
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Post by mnelson80 Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:30 pm

Wow.. he is big.. I love it. haha it just makes me giggle. Dominic is pretty big to. I bet he weighs at least 15 or 16. He was 14.5 at this appointment about 3 weeks ago. So Brenden is about 2 weeks older than him. He too is wearing 6-9 months clothes some 3-6 but not to many. We'll have to start a football team..LOL
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Post by PolloLoco75 Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:50 pm

Wow my guy is so little compared to y'alls. Last appointment Nate was 12.5 lbs. He has grown some but is still really small. He is in 0-3 mth clothes. I just put away all of the NB size clothes. LOL.
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Post by Kim Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:13 pm

Amy- Landree is still little too, we just took out her 3-6 months clothes but that is because I was bored with her other clothes, 3-6 months fit, but she deffinitly has room to grow. If I were to guess I wouldn't put her over 14lbs. We don't go to the Dr. until Feb 3rd.
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Post by tweetie462 Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:25 pm

Logan's wearing some 3-6 month stuff, but if they're footed his into the 6-9 mo size because he's long. So, depending on how the stuff runs, he's either in 3-6 mo or 6-9 mo. DH stepped on the scale without him and then with him, and according to that he's about 14lbs and we tried to measure him with a tape measure and it looked like he was about 24in...we'll know for sure when he goes Jan 26 for his checkup.
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Post by Guest Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:39 am

Well weighing Myself alone then with Jeremiah it's a 15lb difference...So I guess that means he's 15lbs...

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Post by eileen bauer Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:25 am

Amy daniel and nate were born teh same week if i rememebr right, and daniel is about 13 pounds and still wearing 0-3months cloths they are fitting him perfect. I just put away the newborn sizes this past weekend.
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Post by mythreesons Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:26 am

Elise-Logan and Lucas have an appointment the same day!!!

At Luc's checkup after the hospital he weighed in at 14lbs10oz...That was a few weeks ago.All of the new 3-6 month clothes we have for Lucas fit but have definite room to grow.Any well worn clothes from his two older brothers, those he can wear that are up to 12 months...He's still definetly my smallest kid.By this age his brothers were in either 6-9 months or 9-12months....
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Post by MichelleL Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:32 am

I am in complete shock!!! Brenden slept until 4am last night! I kept waking to check on him but he was snoozing away! He took a bottle and fell back asleep until almost 7am! I am so excited for today!!! I'm pissed I didn't call the dr before when he started getting really fussy....so far everytime his attitude has changed into fussiness like this it has been the Zantac...what was I thinking?????

A 12-13lb LO sounds wonderful!!! My guy is so heavy....I'm buying a new car seat this weekend I can barely snap him into the one he has now. It's crazy how people are so many different shapes and sizes! Dawson was 4months before he hit 10lbs, of course with all of his problems it was expected he would gain slowly! Anyway, I've gone from a peanut to a hulk! LOL

Have a fab days ladies!
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Post by rocknrollmommy616 Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:27 pm

joey is outgrowing his 3-6 months clothes too! I had to put away all my favs from 0-3.. I was so sad! Does it make anyone as sad to see their kids grow out of outfits you loved on them, almost as much as it makes you sad to grow out of your own clothes(but obviously for different reasons lol).

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BTW Joy- don't forget to take off two pounds for your clothes!
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:47 am

Yeah I take off the two lbs when I weigh myself....just so I can say I am that much lighter hehehe but when I weighed myself first was at 245.8 then when I reweighed myself holding him the scale went up 15lbs to 260.8 so that would mean he was 15lbs..... I cannot believe he is 3 months old already time flies by too fast.... he has pretty much outgrown his 0-3month stuff already I mean I can put it on him but you can definitely tell his movement is restricted a bit in his legs and he tends to pop the buttons undone if I try to have him wear any of them so I basically gave up on those off to 3-6 months sizes...of which I don't have too many of...gonna have to hit up the second hand stores during $$ bag days I think.... Had I know a few years ago I would have another boy so soon I would have kept all of Elijah's clothes but I gave them away...whoa totally off subject from what I was talking about...anywho enough of my babbling

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Post by PolloLoco75 Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:19 pm

I found out how to get Nate to sleep for a long time. Take him to daycare for 2 days. The first day he had 3 - 20 minute naps the 2nd day he had 3 - 30 minute naps. When we got home last night he fell asleep at 6:30. We woke him up at 9:00 for bath/lotion/bottle and he passed right out again. Then woke up at 2AM ate and passed out, then at 6 AM ate and passed out and didnt wake up again until 9:30AM. Its 11:20 and he is taking his morning nap. Poor sleepy baby!
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